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How to talk to NVSHacker without accidentally killing him?

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 7:34 pm
by rdaneel
Warning, possible very mild spoiler alert:

Has anybody else noticed that unless you knock out everyone in the Quick Stop on day 1, NVS hacker and A2 will invariably die? I don't understand these other folks that say NVS will show up places, in PDX etc., because I have found that visiting the quick stop kills NVS hacker, regardless of the player's actions. Allow me to explain.

A2 is such a complete psychopath that if any Quick Stop customer bumps into him (steps on him, I assume) he will go crazy, kill NVS and everybody else, and then get blown away by a firewall or security bot. Due to the patrol routes of the Quick Stop customers which take them down the aisle inhabited by NVS and A2, this will *always* happen if you visit the Quick Stop and talk to NVS.

Am I wrong?

Re: How to talk to NVSHacker without accidentally killing hi

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 7:45 pm
by ggrotz
rdaneel wrote: Am I wrong?
Yeah pretty much. As long as you don't stir anyone else or A2, or cause any trouble (note you CAN do this with NVSHacker himself) you can talk to NVSHacker all you want.

Of course you could be on an old version of TNM which has a problem of this nature, though I haven't caught what version you are running. Edit: I saw 1.04 (no plus) in another post. I never had a problem there of this nature...

Re: How to talk to NVSHacker without accidentally killing hi

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 1:42 am
by NVShacker
If TNM had achievements, I'm pretty sure "keep NVShacker alive through the whole game" would be one. I'm guessing what happened, OP, is that someone steps on the bot, it murders them (totally normal thus far) and in my panic I step on it too and get roasted. I suggest building a barricade of some kind, if for some reason you want to keep me alive (I do appreciate it).

Re: How to talk to NVSHacker without accidentally killing hi

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 1:50 am
by bobby 55
It doesn't happen to me. I think once, the security bot got pissed when I set off an alarm. The other customers haven't come near NVS or A2 in the 10 times I've played.

Re: How to talk to NVSHacker without accidentally killing hi

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:03 am
by Jonas
Just as a side note, those people in the quick stop don't have patrols. They just wander around, and I may have set up some WanderPoints for them to walk between so it looks like they have a little purpose in their sad NPC lives. In other words they move more or less randomly.

Re: How to talk to NVSHacker without accidentally killing hi

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 3:12 am
by Hassat Hunter
I've had the onslaught by random wanderers on A2 only once in all my games (and I had several, as most know).
Maybe you saved with that scared citizen NPC on a bad spot?

Re: How to talk to NVSHacker without accidentally killing hi

Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 12:59 am
by rdaneel
Could be. I'm a TNM noob on my first run through, so it sounds like it must be the case that I did *something* in the Quick Stop before my save game that stirred up one of the NPCs or NVS himself.

Thanks for the thoughts guys. I only checked it about 3 or 4 times, and always from the same save game point so I'm sure you guys must be right.

Re: How to talk to NVSHacker without accidentally killing hi

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:32 pm
by Morpheus
knock out everyone in the Quick Stop on day 1, NVS hacker and A2 will invariably die? I don't understand these other folks that say NVS will show up places, in PDX etc., because I have found that visiting the quick stop kills NVS hacker, regardless of the player's actions
Nope, never happened to me, always left with him alive, except once when I put the wrong choice in the convo and he killed NV, the only other time anything has happened in Quick Stop for me is when I get my hand caught in the pickle jar happens or being chased into the Quick Stop by an enemy of whoever I am not doing play through for.