Today I was bored so I wrote a spoiler-free review

[Ashsaver]

haha well, i pointed the part i don't like about TNM out because i have affection for it,it's not like I'm just another nitpicker with nothing better to do.

"Hey, i like you,so I'll tell you what i don't like about you." (Twisted logic,right? i know.)

Oh yeah and there is this part where,in the game,i receive a pm from someone told me to visit his highpriest,I curious so i went, and that highpriest told me to do a job for him, basicly he told me to go to certain place to do some damage, and i was like "Wait a minute,i was there when your guy pmed me, why didn't you just tell your guy to tell me what you want back then?"

It was like; I went to a grocery,and my friend,who know where i am, call me to visit him because he has a mission for me, When i visit him he said he need me to do some shopping at the grocery,where i'd just been.

It's kinda...funny

[bobby 55]

Maybe some tehnical reason for that. Perhaps a chance to get more equipment before doing another quest is a better reason.

[Jaedar]

The PM system is very unsecure and Beefman cannot risk the filthy llamas overhearing your holy misson.

[Ashsaver]

The PM system is very unsecure and Beefman cannot risk the filthy llamas overhearing your holy misson.

Thou may be correct lol, but you know, since The Llama trust me enough to offer me a holy mission, and The Goat are already at my throat, so there is really no point being secretive about it, it's not like they're gonna increase security or anything, consider that i already butchered(literally) the Goat Highpriest and most of his follower (Who'd wanna drink Melk(tm) that kept in a cave anyway, not to mention that i dived into it too,and i also left some of my "stuffs" in there too)

[bobby 55]

Well a cult who wants to call themselves *Goats* probably wouldn't be that big on personal hygiene anyway

[Jaedar]

it's not like they're gonna increase security or anything

Well... spoilers on the mission incoming:
they could have broken the melk fountains so they could never be turned off if they knew what you were going to do. Thus making it impossible for you to stop the flow of Melk(TM)
Also, Goats are way cooler than Llamas.

[Jonas]

haha well, i pointed the part i don't like about TNM out because i have affection for it,it's not like I'm just another nitpicker with nothing better to do.

Yes I gathered as much, but frankly your nitpick is stupid. First of all, you say the side missions are boring, and when somebody points out that not everybody thinks so, you choose to support your statement by describing a main mission (not a side mission, by your own admission) that you thought was boring. Secondly, as I pointed out, you don't even have to do that mission in the boring way that you describe. Just shoot Abomination as soon as Dark Templar PMs you and you can skip that whole damn thing. So the bottom line is: if you didn't like that part of TNM, play it in a way you would like. That's the point of Deus Ex's open-ended gameplay

[Jaedar]

Just shoot Abomination as soon as Dark Templar PMs you and you can skip that whole damn thing.

On that note: Is it possible to still join the Llamas if you dispose of Abom? And if I knock out DT to get the pickyture, can I still join the Goats?

[Jonas]

No, I believe you cannot.

[Jaedar]

No, I believe you cannot.

Oh well.

[gamer0004]

No, I believe you cannot.

Oh well.

That's a good thing... No IW all over again.

[Jaedar]

That's a good thing... No IW all over again.

Unlike the factions in IW though, the Goats/Llamas make no aspirations to be serious. It would be alot more acceptable for them than WTO/The Order. But point taken

[Ashsaver]

Haha, sorry for being stupid(no joke,honest), i should have mention main missions back earlier.

I guess,if i don't want to take a long walk back and fourth then i should just shoot 'em all.

I'll keep my opinion to myself from now on.

*Hmm looking for the staff, just summoned the secret conversation,lol are there more?

[bobby 55]

There is nothing wrong with having an opinion and stating what it is. But you can't expect people to always agree with you. So if you have more opinions don't be shy because people here are fair minded and will tell you that they agree as well, if and when they do.

[chris the cynic]

I'll keep my opinion to myself from now on.

You should not do that. Share your opinion by all means.

There are simply a couple of things you should understand.

The first thing is that complaining you have to do something when you don't have to do it is not a valid criticism.
The second is that if you choose to play in a way you don't like that is your choice. Perhaps you should choose to play the game in a way you do like and see how that works out.

If you keep that kind of thing in mind there should be no problem with you sharing your opinions, and they will almost certainly be welcomed.