Maan ShadowCode was flippin' tough.
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Maan ShadowCode was flippin' tough.
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And I hate camera effects.
And I hate camera effects.
Re: Maan ShadowCode was flippin' tough.
Yeah I must complain that that was too hard. So Aside from the random crashing and freezes I would call this the first flaw. The second would be the the shear insane difficulty of jumping back through the lava pit after going to DXI.
Re: Maan ShadowCode was flippin' tough.
I apologize for letting that into the release version, some of our testers did grumble about the unfairness of specific traps, but we were reluctant to make any drastic changes that late in the game. Clearly this mission is pretty broken, so we're giving it an overhaul for version 1.0.1 - adding more EMP weapons, cutting three of the traps, and nerfnig the hoverbots. Sorry to put you through that.
I hope the final sequence in the mission at least partially made up for it.
Even if you do hate camera effects
I hope the final sequence in the mission at least partially made up for it.
Even if you do hate camera effects
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Re: Maan ShadowCode was flippin' tough.
I'm just annoyed you had to water down the fan traps. Don't get me wrong, the bugs they were causing were certainly worth killing. I know how impossible that map was with one such bug, but after being pulled towards the fan rushing to kill it before it killed me, simply being able to stand there, and take my time blowing the thing up doesn't seem right.
Re: Maan ShadowCode was flippin' tough.
Yeah that's a shame, but it's essentially a tech limitation. Finding an actual work-around would've been tremendously hacky.
And now we've killed the fire trap and the turret hallway too, and we've made the electricity room entirely optional (you can go in there if you want to grab some items, but otherwise you can just walk right past it). We're doing this because obstacles where you have to take damage to get through are just plain poor design. Again: My fault.
And now we've killed the fire trap and the turret hallway too, and we've made the electricity room entirely optional (you can go in there if you want to grab some items, but otherwise you can just walk right past it). We're doing this because obstacles where you have to take damage to get through are just plain poor design. Again: My fault.
Jonas Wæver
Chief Poking Manager of TNM
I've made some videogames:
Expeditions: Rome
Expeditions: Viking
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Clandestine
Chief Poking Manager of TNM
I've made some videogames:
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Expeditions: Viking
Expeditions: Conquistador
Clandestine
Re: Maan ShadowCode was flippin' tough.
I'm completely stuck in this mission, I've just shutdown the 5 servers, and now I'm in a square room with somekind of shaft in the middle and there are 4 electronic panels around the room. The only way to enter the shaft is by going through fire lasers (the guy who invented those needs to be shot btw). Using my multitools on the electronic panels only seems to remove the platform in the shaft on the lower level. I've found a way to go through the lasers by putting a small crate in front of it, but I doubt that's how we're supposed to do it (or it's extremely far-fetched and possibly leads to being stuck if you throw the crates down the shaft). Anyway even if I manage to go through the lasers I'll just end up on the lower level where there are four more electronic panels which do the exact same thing as the ones on the upper level. So is there something broken or did I miss something ?
PS : As it is this is possibly the worst level in any game ever. But it's great you're aware of it and fixing it. The rest of the mod is ace though.
PS : As it is this is possibly the worst level in any game ever. But it's great you're aware of it and fixing it. The rest of the mod is ace though.
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Re: Maan ShadowCode was flippin' tough.
Climb up the shaft.
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Can someone post a solution to that sliding puzzle or maybe a way to bypass it if one exists?
Re: Maan ShadowCode was flippin' tough.
You can always hack it if you have master level hacking.
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Re: Maan ShadowCode was flippin' tough.
I did the crate. Climb up once you have the platforms removed. No point in going down from what I've gathered.Kayl wrote:The only way to enter the shaft is by going through fire lasers (the guy who invented those needs to be shot btw). Using my multitools on the electronic panels only seems to remove the platform in the shaft on the lower level. I've found a way to go through the lasers by putting a small crate in front of it, but I doubt that's how we're supposed to do it (or it's extremely far-fetched and possibly leads to being stuck if you throw the crates down the shaft). Anyway even if I manage to go through the lasers I'll just end up on the lower level where there are four more electronic panels which do the exact same thing as the ones on the upper level. So is there something broken or did I miss something ?
It's actually about the easiest part of the whole thing. Think for a second, understand how the pieces move. It's easier than you think, and very few moves.g77gg wrote:Can someone post a solution to that sliding puzzle or maybe a way to bypass it if one exists?
Re: Maan ShadowCode was flippin' tough.
If you mean the room with the boxes being set on fire was actually quite cool... One problem though, and that's prolly a limitation. While you don't want the fire to burn out, I'd make the boxes destructible, like clearing them out with a couple LAMs, that way it's not a time dependent sequence.Jonas wrote:Yeah that's a shame, but it's essentially a tech limitation. Finding an actual work-around would've been tremendously hacky.
And now we've killed the fire trap and the turret hallway too, and we've made the electricity room entirely optional (you can go in there if you want to grab some items, but otherwise you can just walk right past it). We're doing this because obstacles where you have to take damage to get through are just plain poor design. Again: My fault.
Re: Maan ShadowCode was flippin' tough.
Thanks I would never have thought of that. This whole room was very strange. The end of the mission was awesome though, I loved that small puzzle on the computer.chris the cynic wrote:Climb up the shaft.
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It was a nice setpiece, but it's totally shit from a gameplay point of view, and it's now gone. The dynamics are still there, but ShadowCode never starts a fire, and if you start one yourself, the boxes will actually burn down. You can also blow them up.r00tb33r wrote:If you mean the room with the boxes being set on fire was actually quite cool... One problem though, and that's prolly a limitation. While you don't want the fire to burn out, I'd make the boxes destructible, like clearing them out with a couple LAMs, that way it's not a time dependent sequence.
We've also removed the gold lasers - using a crate was the right solution, but as you said, you can get stuck by throwing it into the core by accident.
Jonas Wæver
Chief Poking Manager of TNM
I've made some videogames:
Expeditions: Rome
Expeditions: Viking
Expeditions: Conquistador
Clandestine
Chief Poking Manager of TNM
I've made some videogames:
Expeditions: Rome
Expeditions: Viking
Expeditions: Conquistador
Clandestine
Re: Maan ShadowCode was flippin' tough.
I'm completely stuck in the room with 2 spiderbots and a storage cupboard. Can see server 6 up on the balcony but have no idea how to get up there.
The mod is awesome by the way, got a real surprise when I entered the new complex and now both the lamas and goats hate me, didn't see that coming!
The mod is awesome by the way, got a real surprise when I entered the new complex and now both the lamas and goats hate me, didn't see that coming!
Re: Maan ShadowCode was flippin' tough.
You need to backtrack once you have the password for the door to server 6: Get back to the area with the moving lights and find the door out to the balchony.
Jonas Wæver
Chief Poking Manager of TNM
I've made some videogames:
Expeditions: Rome
Expeditions: Viking
Expeditions: Conquistador
Clandestine
Chief Poking Manager of TNM
I've made some videogames:
Expeditions: Rome
Expeditions: Viking
Expeditions: Conquistador
Clandestine