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Re: Raving nutter is a d!ckhead

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 8:46 pm
by Jonas
Trestkon is such a dickhead ;)

Re: Raving nutter is a d!ckhead

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:06 am
by Jetsetlemming
Jonas wrote:Perhaps so, but there are a couple of other considerations:

1) If you steal from the shop, you can pretty much get unlimited guns, and that needs a drawback.

2) Choice and consequence WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
Am I missing something? I thought disabling security just makes the turrets not lower, you still have to use multitools on all the cases.
He never reacted to me grabbing misplaced LAWs and body armors through their cases 8)

Re: Raving nutter is a d!ckhead

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:43 am
by Jonas
Jetsetlemming wrote:Am I missing something? I thought disabling security just makes the turrets not lower, you still have to use multitools on all the cases.
Alright not unlimited weapons then, but just huge discounts since you can basically get any weapon for the price of a multitool :)
He never reacted to me grabbing misplaced LAWs and body armors through their cases 8)
That's because it's an engine glitch, and there's sadly nothing I know that we can do to fix it. I looked at the items in question in the top-down view in the editor, and their radii stay nicely inside the cases :(

Re: Raving nutter is a d!ckhead

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:51 am
by Jetsetlemming
The body armors were improperly aligned, so they were physically sticking out the top of the case.

Re: Raving nutter is a d!ckhead

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 1:04 am
by Jonas
What the shit, I thought I fixed that ](*,)

Re: Raving nutter is a d!ckhead

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 4:04 am
by Jetsetlemming
Uh, just to be clear I haven't played TNM yet since 1.02. :P The body armor thing was in 1.01.

Re: Raving nutter is a d!ckhead

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:20 pm
by Hassat Hunter
It's also in 1.0.2

Lowest LAW on day 1.
A body armor on day 2 (it doesn't stick out anymore though, but it's still grabable).
Lowest LAW AND upper LAW on day 2.

Well, asfar as I can tell.

Re: Raving nutter is a d!ckhead

Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 4:51 pm
by Hassat Hunter
Scrap that, you can take all 3 LAW's out of their casing, without paying or multitooling (1.0.2)

Really helpful for me to take down those PDX milbots and firewalls in a single shot :P.

Re: Raving nutter is a d!ckhead

Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 5:34 pm
by Jonas
You know what? Fuck it. You can have those LAWs, with compliments from the shitty Unreal Engine physics system.

Re: Raving nutter is a d!ckhead

Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 6:27 pm
by DDL
Now THAT'S the kinda bug fixing I like to see... :D

Re: Raving nutter is a d!ckhead

Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 7:06 pm
by Hassat Hunter
Although I definitely wouldn't mind it NOT being fixed, would it be a lot of work to enlargen the case?
Is it just a prop, placed in the world, or is each of them manually crafted from meshes, (I don't recall how to add glass again in UED) and manually set movers?

Re: Raving nutter is a d!ckhead

Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 7:36 pm
by DDL
manually crafted from level geometry + movers: much harder to readjust than meshes.

I'd go for just altering the collision radii/heights of the LAWs, mesself....

:P

Re: Raving nutter is a d!ckhead

Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 9:13 pm
by Xesum
Jonas wrote:Trestkon is such a dickhead ;)
You mean Treskton?

Re: Raving nutter is a d!ckhead

Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 9:57 pm
by Jonas
DDL wrote:I'd go for just altering the collision radii/heights of the LAWs, mesself....
But I fucking did! Have you looked at those bastards in the editor? They are well within the walls of the display case! They're already too small to encompass the actual LAW meshes ](*,)
Xesum wrote:You mean Treskton?
No I don't.

Re: Raving nutter is a d!ckhead

Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 12:10 pm
by Hassat Hunter
DDL wrote:manually crafted from level geometry + movers: much harder to readjust than meshes.
Definitely more trouble than it's worth to edit.

And taking an other run I can tell these things can be savely taken from their "cabinet":
All 3 LAWS
Upper camo-armor
Upper ballistic armor (not on day 2 though, because it's gone)
Upper Assault Shotgun