Discussion Thread

DaveW · Post by **DaveW** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:46 pm

Rules for posting - read this before contemplating reply otherwise Cyber will jump down on your with fascist wrath.

We like:
Constructive Critism
Comments relating to the work
Discussion
Praise (but, constructive priase is much better)

We don't like:
People mindlessly saying things are bad without reason
People pushing their opinions onto us, saying that we have to do as they say *cough*Zylon*cough*

We'll have some new screenshots up sometime soon.

EER · Post by **EER** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:55 pm

yay! Congratulations on the new forum!

ewanlaing · Post by **ewanlaing** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 9:04 pm

good call. the thread had about 50 odd pages i believe.
i'm really intrigued by new vision. between that and the other two mods (you KNOW the ones i mean) deus ex is getting a well deserved overhaul.

justanotherfan · Post by **justanotherfan** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 9:51 pm

You have a very nice subforum. We all love facism, ask anyone :). Being jumped down your with sounds painful.

What's new in the mod? Maybe that's another new thread.

Sike · Post by **Sike** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 10:32 pm

Hi. My first time posting at these forums

I was just wondering if u guys are gonna make the mod to not require replacing any of the original .utx files. This would be very helpful because I also play the multiplayer and I can't enter the server if any of my .utx files differ from the ones that the host has. Also I would be too lazy to just keep re-naming all the files

Anyway, the mod is looking fantastic and keep up the good work

Post by **DDL** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 11:14 pm

Yeah, that's easily doable: I assume they'll make a nice installer for this, but if you've downloaded the 'preview release' textures they did, simply do this:

unzip all the .utx files and put them in a folder (in your deusex folder) called NewVision.

Now go to your system folder, open up deusex.ini, and look for this bit:

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[Core.System]
PurgeCacheDays=30
SavePath=..\Save
CachePath=..\Cache
CacheExt=.uxx
Paths=..\System\*.u
Paths=..\Maps\*.dx
Paths=..\Textures\*.utx
Paths=..\Sounds\*.uax
Paths=..\Music\*.umx

Now add the line "Paths=..\NewVision\*.utx" ABOVE the original texture reference. Like so:

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[Core.System]
PurgeCacheDays=30
SavePath=..\Save
CachePath=..\Cache
CacheExt=.uxx
Paths=..\System\*.u
Paths=..\Maps\*.dx
Paths=..\NewVision\*.utx
Paths=..\Textures\*.utx
Paths=..\Sounds\*.uax
Paths=..\Music\*.umx

And now when you run vanilla DX it should use the newvision textures wherever it finds an appropriate newvision texture. If it can't find one, it'll just use the originals.

I think this might let you play DX_MP as it is, but if not, you can simply remove that line from deusex.ini when you're about to play DX_MP, and there should be no problems. Then just add the line back when you're done: no texture overwriting needed!

Sike · Post by **Sike** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 12:01 am

Thank you DDL! I will try this out when I download Vision

Jetsetlemming · Post by **Jetsetlemming** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 12:27 am

Ooh. Good find, DDL.

Are you guys gonna move the old New Vision topic to here or what?

Mr_Cyberpunk · Post by **Mr_Cyberpunk** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 6:04 am

I just want to say welcome everyone and I hope we can have a very informative discussion about the work that is being done. I'll be keeping an eye on the discussions from now on.

Rules for posting - read this before contemplating reply otherwise Cyber will jump down on your with fascist wrath.

We'll see what happens

Follow the rules and we'll have no problems. Follow courtesy, play nicely and respect the work that is being done here.

Thanks and wish us luck.

ewanlaing · Post by **ewanlaing** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:51 pm

everything you guys have posted so far has been top drawer. i hope you'll take it as a compliment when i say it reminds me of john p's work on deus ex 2.

Mr_Cyberpunk · Post by **Mr_Cyberpunk** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 7:49 pm

Thanks for the support. Things are progressing along rather nicely UTX wise. The new website is coming along well too.

Sergeant Kelly · Post by **Sergeant Kelly** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 2:18 am

The textures are very, very good.

Good work on them!

The only problem I can see is with the supposedly "neon" signs. They look a lot different than the originals. I think the first signs are supposed to be video displays, not concrete. The second sign also seems more like a backlit plastic store light than a solid slab. I've included a picture of the originals for comparison.

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/5958/shot4ni6.jpg

Original: http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/9553/shot0028av8.png

http://mods.moddb.com/gallery/image/60002/

Original: http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/5047/shot0029oe3.png

ewanlaing · Post by **ewanlaing** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:51 am

the tonnochi road sign still looks neon to me.i see what you mean about the buttons though. it's seems those lines in the original made all the difference. but it could still work in a real world context.

fox · Post by **fox** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:05 am

I agree. With the lines the signs create the impression of interlaced video displays. There are plugins to add this effect with one click.

Post by **DDL** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:15 am

Isn't it just the d_Scanline detail texture over the top?

In which case it can easily be applied to the new versions: they'd still have a lot of 'wear' effects, but it might look like wear and tear on the display screen. Who knows? It might work.