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I haven't even attacked any civilians (yet), although I have noticed there is no takedown button for civilians, I presume I have to 'turn safety off' or something.
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No, just go up to them and press Q. The prompt doesn't appear because they're not enemies, but you can still activate the takedown.
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All right, I'll try taking down some badass looking civilians tonight ;)
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I like the fact that while it's clearly been established that punching people with your giant doomfists simply knocks them out (unlike mr sneak-lethal fucking tranq rifle *shakes fist*), the standard police response to you punching a civilian is "IMMEDIATELY KILL ON SIGHT".

I mean, I know detroit is a rough town, but geez...
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Didn't you have that conversation with that guy on the police station? You never know with those augmented motherfuckers, better shoot on sight! Also, they probably don't like you for that one thing where they were held back.
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DDL wrote:I like the fact that while it's clearly been established that punching people with your giant doomfists simply knocks them out (unlike mr sneak-lethal fucking tranq rifle *shakes fist*), the standard police response to you punching a civilian is "IMMEDIATELY KILL ON SIGHT".
Mr. sneak-lethal fucking tranq rifle? What the crap are you trying to say, man?

As for your point, well... scary mech-augged guy just punched an innocent civilian! Better not take any chances.
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Jonas wrote:
DDL wrote:I like the fact that while it's clearly been established that punching people with your giant doomfists simply knocks them out (unlike mr sneak-lethal fucking tranq rifle *shakes fist*), the standard police response to you punching a civilian is "IMMEDIATELY KILL ON SIGHT".
Mr. sneak-lethal fucking tranq rifle? What the crap are you trying to say, man?
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But surely that still only knocks them out?
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Jonas wrote:But surely that still only knocks them out?
Actually, the code for knocked out people dieing seems pretty wonky and it is entirely possible for them to die just from the trauma of falling over.
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That's... surprisingly realistic :lol:
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Sorry, yes: I thought everyone had noticed this (I've been deliberately avoiding spoiler threads coz I'm still in detroit, exploiting the fuck out of the stupid weapon-selling system).

For absolutely no good reason, sometimes people you tranq will just..die. Not from falling off ledges or falling into fire or anything (though that works too), they just..pass out and then die in their sleep after an indeterminate time. You get credit for knocking them out, but it's still kinda annoying.

As Jonas points out, this is actually surprisingly realistic given that tranquilisers really really don't work like they do in games: "one dart size KOs all!", and are more of the "not quite enough drug: no effect, a little too much: dead" variety, and this isn't necessarily related to body-weight either: some people are just naturally more drug-resistant, some are naturally more sensitive (the difficulties in being able to judge and assess all this is why anaesthetists are highly-trained medical professionals).

BUT. If you're going to have something like that, then it should fucking state this at some point, ever. Which it doesn't. Thus I suspect it's a bug. Apparently the tazer can do this too sometimes (maybe you need a 'pacemaker detecting aug' to work out who is tazer-sensitive?).
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It's a "non-design feature"
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How do we say in programming? It's not a bug... it's a feature! >:D
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There are no known bugs, there are only features that need to be cut.
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Okay, the correct joking line is "This is not a bug, this is a random feature!"
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