Updating Music with Remixed PS2 Version Music?

[fub]

ohnoz its slicer.

dell is notoriously bad with date estimates.

[tzang]

dell is notoriously bad with date estimates.

heh, notoriously bad is a rather light word to use... considering I ordered from them 3 times before and all 3 orders never arrived... well, one did, 2 months after I cancelled it and Dell still charged me

This order consists of a funky XPS M1710 with a 7950GTX... lets hope you don't jinx me... they've already done a bad job by not having a PC Card slot for my Audigy 2 ZS Notebook, which does a great job for my music work

[Mr_Cyberpunk]

I've tried hacking the PS2 Discs before to try and get the sounds, models, animations and music. I only managed to rip the FMVs unfortunately. (if you're wondering I noticed that they are up on YouTube so just put my name into the search bar.)

All of those other files are well encrypted using a bastard PS2 encryption of the Unreal 2 engine. (hence why my computer reads it as a .nothing file and can't do anything to read what should be the /DeusEx/ directory) Other than that you can only manage to get the crappy load screens and the FMVs. (I found some .u files in there however)

I'm affraid there is no way to get this accomplished... unless you know anyone that can hack PS2 files.. I tried to speak to a few but they always say "THATS ILLEGAL" like fucking PS2 Fanboy DOOSH bags.

My opinion is, just remaster the bloody things and don't bother with the PS2 version. Its a pain in the Arse to hack.

[DaveW]

ohnoz its slicer.

dell is notoriously bad

Corrected.

[Colej_uk]

I have heard the ps2 music on pc, and it is possible to extract- but I won't go there because of obvious reasons.

I really hope the HD music project works out

[bazooka]

I really like the progress so far on the HD music project so far, tzang. Hope it comes to fruition.

As for implementing OGG w/o having huge downloads -- I don't know much of anything about coding so bear with my not-so-eloquent ramblings here -- if I understand correctly, each map file has the name of the ambient music file for that map defined in it's code? So, the only difference between the new map files pre-compilation and the old map files pre-compilation would be three little letters -- "ogg" versus "wav"? Again, I don't know much, but it seems like those three letters really have no bearing on any other map properties -- so post-compilation, very little would be different between the updated maps and the old maps. What I'm getting at is that maybe you can just implement the OGG, take a bit by bit comparison of the new map versus the old map, and then distribute a patch that changes the users old maps into OGG capable ones, based off the bit comparison.

Is this plausible? It seems like it is to me, it's just I don't know how much the map files differ as a result of changing the extension from "wav" to "ogg."

[DDL]

They're not .wavs, though: the DX music is based on a tracker format (like impulse tracker .it files), converted into an unreal-friendly .umx format.

Probably the easiest way to do it would be to prepare some nicer sounding versions of the original tracks, again in .umx format, and place them in a music folder that the game looks in before the default one.

[EER]

They're not .wavs, though: the DX music is based on a tracker format (like impulse tracker .it files), converted into an unreal-friendly .umx format.

It would however still be possible to distribute the changes to the maps as a patch (minimizing DL size), unless people have screwed around in maps themselves.

[DDL]

Yep: see my suggestion, above. Just adding an HDTP\Music folder to the installer, plus relevant ini links, and the replacement'd happen automatically.

[metche_steele]

Well if the project comes into fruitition then i'd be certainly for it. Ive listening to your new HK sample Tzang and its great fun! It's really rich and elegant. I love it - so a big well done!

Please don't hesitate to keep updating this thread with your new stuff.

[Jonas]

Yep: see my suggestion, above. Just adding an HDTP\Music folder to the installer, plus relevant ini links, and the replacement'd happen automatically.

I think what EER was suggesting was to actually change the maps and then convert the changes into a patch, so only the changed bits would be contained within the patch installer. That way, you could add Jim's OGG player to all the maps, remove the original UMX soundtracks from the map properties, and then make an installer with only those changes (rather than the whole maps) plus the actual OGG files themselves. That should be possible, right? And that wouldn't infringe on any copyright.

[DDL]

To be honest, it's not hard to make the playerclass simply ignore the music for the level, spawn in the ogg actor, and go from there.

My point was that my method didn't even require a patch: the only thing the maps know about the music is the name of the file. They have to look for it and load it up each time you open the map, thus putting a revamped version of the track, with the same name, in a folder the game will look in BEFORE checking the default music folder will replace the music automatically, no changes to maps needed whatsoever.

This would also keep everything peachy with mods, since if there IS no revamped music, it'll simply use the original stuff: it won't complain.

[Jonas]

But they would have to be UMX files, right?

[Morpheus]

I know this sounds like a nice idea, but is it really necessary? What good will become of better music? (Not to sound bad or anything...)

[Jonas]

What good will come of better music? Well, what good with come of better graphics? Same thing.