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And erm, I don't think SWTOR looks that bad tbh.
I really enjoyed KOTOR, but whether TOR will be quite as good is a totally different story.
Just have to wait and see I guess.
Same for Deus Ex 3.
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Yes. Very.nerdenstein wrote:Were you being Sarcastic Jonas?![]()
It's a preposterous stance you're taking. For instance, if you do not like the whole concept of an MMORPG, you know it will suck [for you]. That doesn't mean others won't be able to enjoy it either, but I guess there are people who enjoy My little pony adventures III as well, so in that sense that doesn't mean a game is "good".Jonas wrote:Yes. Very.nerdenstein wrote:Were you being Sarcastic Jonas?![]()
When people magically know how bad games will be before they're released, it always makes me roll my eyes so hard they start bleeding. The only appropriate response is copious sarcasm.
Ahh Thought Soo..Jonas wrote:Yes. Very.nerdenstein wrote:Were you being Sarcastic Jonas?![]()
When people magically know how bad games will be before they're released, it always makes me roll my eyes so hard they start bleeding. The only appropriate response is copious sarcasm.
You spent 906 words to explain that a game can't be good if you don't like it.gamer0004 wrote:words words words
If you would have carefully read what I said, there is no way to determine whether a game really is "good" or "bad"; only whether you like it or not, and that's the only thing that matters.Jonas wrote: You spent 906 words to explain that a game can't be good if you don't like it.
You are wrong. End of my argument. Over to you.
[EDIT] Actually no, one more thing. Are you trying to tell us you've never experienced something you thought you wouldn't like and realised that you do in fact enjoy it? You've never seen a film with the expectation that it would suck, only to be surprised by its quality? You've never in your whole life played a game in a genre you don't like, only to find that this specific specimen is actually quite good?
If so, I weep for you. You must have a very boring life.
Let's say you're in a restaurant and have to decide what to order, you're not going to order shrimps (or whatever you don't like) if you ordered them a couple of years ago and was absolutely disgusted by them. You know you don't like to eat them, so why try it out again?Most people on this forum have played a lot of games, which means that by now most of us know what we don't like in games (but we can always be positively surprised by certain innovations).
Really, because for such a huge fan of subjectivity, "that god awful MMO" sure is an unsubjective phrase to use. Especially about a game nobody has played yet.gamer0004 wrote:If you would have carefully read what I said, there is no way to determine whether a game really is "good" or "bad"; only whether you like it or not, and that's the only thing that matters.
What an incredibly false comparison you've got there. If I've played Max Payne and I didn't like it, I'm not going to play Max Payne again. I might give Max Payne 2 a shot though, and I certainly wouldn't tell everybody Max Payne 2 is an awful game because I didn't like Max Payne. If I find a menu in a restaurant with shrimp v2.0, or... some other dish in the shell fish genre, hell - I might give it a shot. I mean I hate shrimp, but I'm okay with lobster.Let's say you're in a restaurant and have to decide what to order, you're not going to order shrimps (or whatever you don't like) if you ordered them a couple of years ago and was absolutely disgusted by them. You know you don't like to eat them, so why try it out again?
Because it could be radically different from WoW? I mean would you tell me anybody who doesn't like WoW also wouldn't like EVE Online? Those ain't exactly identical, ya know?Perhaps ten years later you might be tempted to try it out again, since taste and opinion can change over the years. But this is not about ten years, but rather one or two or maybe a few months. If you played WoW one or two years ago and found you didn't like the concept of an MMORPG, then why would you suddenly like this new MMORPG?
I'm pretty sure we are instinctively coded to be utterly repulsed by shit, presumably because actually eating the stuff - especially other people's - can be extremely, extremely bad for your health. What I'm getting at here is that you somehow managed to come up with an even more preposterously useless simile than your shrimp rubbish above.Be honest Jonas, are you tasting dog shit on a daily basis? I sure hope not. It smells unpleasant and perhaps you have ever tasted it (though you probably haven't) and found out it doesn't taste too great either. And yet it is normal we don't like shit, even though we haven't ever tested it, but we can't say we won't like a game because it has features we know we hate?
I would dig out some quote about keeping an open mind, but I can't spare the time. Instead, a nice Tom Francis quote: you are "incapable of distinguishing between 'good' and 'similar to the last thing I liked'.""Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
I'm not asking you to blindly buy every new game that's released. I'm asking you to not condemn a game you haven't played, and which nobody else has ever played, because you didn't enjoy other games in the same category of games. I really wouldn't think that'd be so much to ask. You don't even have to help making these forums a nicer place, I'd just like you not to actively strive to make them worse. If you think it's "cool" or "edgy" to hate popular games, regardless of whether or not you've ever given them an honest shot, and you like to make a big deal out of that sort of thing, I recommend the RPG Codex or - in a pinch - Through The Looking Glass.I don't want to find out to have wasted €50 AGAIN, on a game I don't like.
I made that mistake last time lets just hope valve does not run any incredibly good sales on the non GOTY version this timeXesum wrote:I'll wait for the GOTY if they decide to release DLC.
Not sure if they quite make up for it. The singleplayer element is pretty damn bad.Xesum wrote:The Destruction and fun in RF:G made up for the story.